LSAG physicist CERN stated not involved with LHC, was involved

CERN stated for months theoretical physicists, like John Ellis, who was part of the LHC Safety Assessment Group (LSAG), was not involved with Large Hadron Collider's (LHC) experiments prior to their report:

"CERN has mandated a group of particle physicists, also not involved in the LHC experiments, to monitor the latest speculations about LHC collisions." Link (Fixed)

Mandated LHC Safety Assessment Group (LSAG):

John Ellis, Gian Giudice, Michelangelo Mangano and Urs Wiedemann, of CERN, and Igor Tkachev, of the Institute for Nuclear Research in Moscow. Link

The machine was still under construction, so experimental involvement with the LHC was impossible, to include all CERN physicists since it wasn't operational, so CERN wasn't lying... but... John Ellis has given experimental presentations at Workshops, seminars at universities around the world about Large Hadron Colliders as far back as 1987, but that doesn't count, right? RIGHT?

NEW PHYSICS IN HIGH-ENERGY e+ e- AND HADRON HADRON COLLISIONS. John R. Ellis (CERN) . CERN-TH-4888/87, Oct 1987. 28pp. Invited talk given at ICFA Seminar on Future Perspectives in High Energy Physics, Upton, N.Y., Oct 5-10, 1987. Link

You know what bugs me, John Ellis promoting the LHC in a video back in 2006 stating "We don't know exactly what we're going to find, but we know whatever it is it's going to be something new." He must have been joking, because why would CERN ask him to help with a new LHC safety report?
He gave them a good laugh?
http://www.itnsource.com/shotlist/ITN/2006/12/19/T19120645

Ellis was really lucky to be given that honor of evaluating the safety of collisions at the LHC, because it must have sucked being Cern's chief theorist Professor promoting the LHC, since CERN probably denied his involvement for over 20 years like he was some kind of stepchild. Poor guy...

Update, December 3, 2008: The first Link above has been fixed. CERN made some changes to their page recently, Safety at the LHC, so we're linking to an archive version of it through Archive.com's Wayback Machine to show you their statement as stated above.

Funny, the third link down still works, but when you click it, the link (QCD183:I2:1987) on that page to the lecture John Ellis gave which was published in a book shows an error:

"No such subfile: BOOKS * Error attempting to select BOOKS * message = Unable to select BOOKS, error code 162 * Cleaning up and trying again -No such subfile: BOOKS Unable to select BOOKS, error code 162."

Why link to it when it no longer exist on their site?

LHC accidental quench of 100 magnets raises questions

By Walter L. Wagner

The accident of September 19, 2008 poses a number of serious questions. It is unheard of to have 100 consecutive magnets quench, totaling some 1.5 kilometers in length.

If the connector between two magnets lost superconductivity, engaged in ohmic resistance heating, and melted, as suggested in initial reports, it raises several questions regarding how that happened.

It occurred while they were testing that sector by raising the current/field-strength from what it takes to curve a 0.45 TeV beam [injection speed/energy] to a field-strength that would curve a 5 TeV beam [stated goal to engage in collisions at 10 TeV in October, 2008]. Each magnet had reportedly been tested independently before installation, but the whole length of magnets had not been tested, thus the testing requirement for each sector as a whole, before beam injection.

So, the question is, at what field strength did the connector fail? At 1 TeV, 2 TeV, 5 TeV?. And the second question, was this the last of the sectors to be tested, or the first?

In any event, it calls into question the engineering design of the connectors. It will likely be determined that they can/will/do fail with their current design. If so, they will all have to be replaced/retrofitted in all magnets along the full 27 kilometer length. That won't happen this Winter, I'm fairly certain.

Another question pertains to potential damage to the magnets during the quench process. It appears the temperature gauges were damaged - they all stopped reporting save one, which stopped reporting five days after the accident. This implies physical damage to the gauges, and ergo, another design defect that would have to be retrofitted/corrected on all magnets.

And then, it still remains to be determined whether heating from 2K to 100K in a fraction of a second caused any damaged. It's not supposed to happen, according to the design. But then, 100 magnets are not supposed to quench simultaneously either, according to the design. So those magnets will need to be tested to see if they suffered any physical damage. If any of them did, that would imply a design defect that would need to be retrofitted on all magnets.

This accident is far more serious than initially being reported - and this is likely known by those engineers in the know, but possibly not yet being reported to management [Engelen/Aymar].

And, they're also having difficulties with maintaining their cool [pun intended]. Both ends of sector 3-4 are slowly warming. And even sector 2-3 is showing some difficulty. Perhaps they need more Helium, and it's not available?

In any event, they also have to worry about keeping everyone busy during the down-time, creating 'make-work' projects. It would be nice if they started working on the ideas we've proposed to look for the proofs of safety, if they exist. That's all good science too.

http://www.lhcdefense.org

CERN's Gods: Higgs Boson, and Shiva (Destroyer of Worlds)

UPDATE: I know, updates are usually added at the end of an entry. Just want to get the record straight before you continue reading, me and CW don't believe CERN worships India's God, Shiva. They own a statue of this God on their property, which represents creation followed by destruction. Carry on...

As physicists and technicians at the European Organisation for Nuclear Research (CERN) race to repair the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) to continue their search for the God particle, Higgs Boson, another God in statue form by the name of Shiva, destroyer in Hinduism, presides above ground at CERN.

That's right, CERN, the organization that states all is safe while denouncing critics who fear the LHC could destroy the world while trying to recreate the Big Bang, is proudly displaying a gift from India, a statue of their God Shiva (Destroyer of Worlds), dancing the Tandava, in his manifestation of Nataraja, which is part of his activities of creation and destruction. WTF is CERN thinking?

It's no wonder a 17 year old girl from India committed suicide over the LHC.

LHC shut down compels CERN to collide mosquitoes

Due to the Large Hadron Collider's shut down for the winter caused by technical difficulties, CERN unvails the SMC, the Small Mosquito Collider, condemned by Stephen Hawking as an insult to science. "This is bullshit," said Hawking. "CERN breaks the LHC, and this is their back up plan? They better pray for a stable black hole, that's all I have to say," Hawking stated angrily, before blowing his chair's speakers.

A tonne of liquid helium leaked into the experiment's 17 mile (27km) long tunnel 19 September, caused by a faulty electrical connection between two of the accelerator's magnets. Once the incident was discovered, CERN physicists scrambled to the surface with nets.

"Coming immediately after the successful start-up of LHC on September 10th, this is undoubtedly a psychological blow," said Robert Aymar, director-general of the European Organization for Nuclear Research (Cern). "But we're sure we'll get desired results from the SMC as soon as we find some mosquitoes, but if not, we'll coordinate with Evolutionary Acceleration Research Institute to use their Giant Animal Smasher, GAS."

Brian Cox, in a statement on BBC radio, reiterated CERN's talking points to defend the SMC. "We've been saying this all along, colliding mosquitoes is equivalent to colliding protons. Why wouldn't we fall back to our original collider? Oops," Brian Cox admits. "I know, I know... Why spend billions of dollars on a particle accelerator when you can get the same results smashing Mosquitoes? Well guess what, the LHC is paid for, so get over it! Anybody who thinks you can make a living from the SMC is a twat!"

To fend off critics before they could slam the SMC, CERN physicists dismissed any idea that smashing mosquitoes would create a super bug that would suck you dry.

CERN: LHC produced black holes could remain on Earth

In the past CERN stated that if microscopic black holes were to be found at the LHC (Large Hadron Collider), they would exist only for a fleeting moment. Today, their definition of a fleeting moment also means all eternity:

"Those produced (micro black holes) by cosmic rays would pass harmlessly through the Earth into space, whereas those produced by the LHC could remain on Earth. However, there are much larger and denser astronomical bodies than the Earth in the Universe. Black holes produced in cosmic-ray collisions with bodies such as neutron stars and white dwarf stars would be brought to rest. The continued existence of such dense bodies, as well as the Earth, rules out the possibility of the LHC producing any dangerous black holes." Reference Link

So to all you people who stated for months there's a chance the LHC could create stable black holes, enough already!
CERN admits it! But no worries, they wont be dangerous... and if you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you!

Photo by Keith Pomakis

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